ENRAGED

Mar. 20th, 2009 11:18 pm
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What the crap was that???? That was 2 hours and 11 minutes that was wasted. Okay, the first hour was AWESOME. Then it went downhill. Then it went to insane land. Then it went to WHAT THE FRAK ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT land. It ended with "I wasted four years of a television show for THIS?" and I'm fuming.

What a waste. What a craptacular ending. So so so disappointed.

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Date: 2009-03-21 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddsbobs.livejournal.com
I would have liked it if Galactica had jumped, we had seen Earth (2), and then CREDITS.

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Date: 2009-03-21 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenriley.livejournal.com
That would have been the best place to end it. Although more people should have died. Dark depressing show where people die? Yeah, people should have, y'know, DIED.

Anyway. :P

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Date: 2009-03-21 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddsbobs.livejournal.com
Well... Tori died, Sam died, Kara went *poof*, Laura died... that's quite a few. Who else do you think should have bought it?

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Date: 2009-03-21 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenriley.livejournal.com
It was a given Laura was going to die, what with the whole debilitating breast cancer on borrowed time thing. Sam was hooked into the ship. He had no consciousness without it, so that was a given as well. Tory and Cavil I was a little surprised at, but not overly moved.

As for people who should have died... oh... how about Helo? Being abandoned on a cylon colony with such a severely damaged leg with uncontrollable bleeding doesn't generally bode well for one's survival. It's not that I disliked him, quite the contrary, it's just... very contrived.

Lee, one of my favourite characters, probably should have died what with him leading the ground forces into the colony. Baltar I'm okay with having survived seeing as, well, he's Baltar and that's just what he does. He lives. Adama could have gone down with the ship, but despite his ship having broken and his woman having died, he still had his son. You'd think, since he made it through all that, instead of just going off to bury Laura and then die with her, he'd finally want to take the chance to be with his son.

Everybody else, well, I had no real opinions on it, but when leading a strike force where you are outnumbered a few bajillion to one, SO MANY of the main characters should NOT have made it through. Not when the show has done it's damndest to show the real consequences of wars. People die.

Just... this isn't like the Doctor Who where "just this once, everybody lives!" can work because this isn't a fun happy show. This is a very dark show where people die. So everybody lives just doesn't make much sense to me.

Or maybe I'm just still tasting the bitterness from last night.

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Date: 2009-03-21 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrs-bombadil.livejournal.com
I'm sorry that was how you felt :(

It worked for me but can see why it wouldn't for many.

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Date: 2009-03-22 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenriley.livejournal.com
I actually really liked it up until 38,000someodd people decided to give up all their technology and live a harsh life where the majority of them would die a painful death and those that didn't die would suffer greatly in what little lives they had left (nevermind watching family and friends die painfully right in front of them... AGAIN).

I also really didn't like what appeared to be the final theme of the show... that technology itself is bad and humans are doomed to failure. Technology isn't bad, it's very good, it's a lack of responsibility that is bad.

And then there is the whole Hera as Mitochondrial Eve that REALLY bothers me. What happened to the survival of the Cylons? They were left to die out without their genes carrying on, yet after some 7000 generations (at the least) since Hera, it's like nothing changed.

I'll write out a detailed post later. I just really didn't like it once they landed on Earth.

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Date: 2009-03-21 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acusa-dora.livejournal.com
At least no one woke up realizing that it was all a dream! I'm not involved in this series, so I have nothing at stake. I did want to start watching the DVDs though. Hmm!

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Date: 2009-03-22 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenriley.livejournal.com
Honestly, that almost would have been preferable! I can very much see how they could have easily made it work if they ran that ending and then showed the entire past few seasons had been Hera's projection while being raised on the Cylon ship as if she'd never been rescued.

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Date: 2009-03-21 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stereo-m.livejournal.com
This is the first negative review I've seen, everyone else seems really positive on my f-list. I've only watched season one, so I'm kinda skimming all the reviews, though.

I'm sorry you didn't like it. :/

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Date: 2009-03-23 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarka.livejournal.com
I don't really agree with you there, but then, I dunno, in the past month, I've burned through four seasons of the show all at once, so maybe I have a different perspective. I thought it was high time they caught a break, and found some sort of idyll.

I always saw BSG as heading for something final and concrete. I was pretty sure we were never going to be left hanging, or wondering. The visions of the Opera House, Kara, Sam getting hooked up to Galactica... while the show was violent and dark and sometimes hopeless, and did its damned best to show that actions have consequences I always saw the theme of the show as "This has happened before and this will happen again."

Sam's last monologue - about the perfection of physics and the exultation of mathematics, action and reaction. The repeat mentions of Kara leading humanity towards its "end". And they've been hammering on the idea of history repeating itself for several seasons. For me, the humans finding this earth, our earth, and settling in... it felt like exactly what was supposed to happen. The notion of perfection, of a grander design, has been hammered on, too, and I always figured there was nothing else the grand design could have been. Of course the humans were going to settle in somewhere and eventually technology would advance to the point of destruction again. And then I also found the ending very emotionally satisfying - even if I was a little upset that Kara went poof ;)

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Date: 2009-03-23 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenriley.livejournal.com
But they DIDN'T find something idyllic. They found Earth, yes, and one of the precursers to humans, yes, but they turned around and gave up ALL their technology. That means a civilization that was more advanced than us decided, all 38,000 of them, to give up tools and machines, to give up housing and medicine. They're giving up the ability to have clean and safe food and water. They're giving up the ability to take medications and heal when ill. They're giving up the ability to have relatively safe childbirth. They spent years fighting the Cylons for their survival, and they essentially pissed it all away for an incredibly hard life.

I did not expect them to just take over and settle exactly as they had when they left Caprica. I just cannot possibly buy that 38,000 people would give up and agree to live such an incredibly harsh life, short as it would be, when they'd spent so many years just trying to survive. They didn't find perfection, they gave up.

I could have bought the entire ending if they'd done something like found an uninhabited corner of the world and created a city with strict rules for no expanding and technology. Say hello to the ancient tales of Atlantis and other very advanced civilizations. It's not like world mythology doesn't have stories that could be used to support the idea of an extremely advanced city far in the past.

All the other things you're talking about that were good came BEFORE they landed on Earth. I agree with the Opera House revelation. I loved it. Sam being hooked into Galactica was good and easily predicted. I loved that Galen went crazy on Tory and killed her. I also have little problems with pulling out the "G-d did it" card if they'd done a better job of explaining how it was guided as opposed to what seemed like "it just was". I don't like the hints that Bill, Lee, and Kara are supposed to represent the holy trinity either.

I'm going to write up a big post eventually, but I just... I couldn't buy the ending. I'll watch it again to see if it gets any better for me, knowing what happens, but I doubt it. It makes no sense to me and doesn't seem to fit, for me, with the entire rest of the show.

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Date: 2009-03-23 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piperx.livejournal.com
I'm sorry you didn't like it. I just watched it and I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it. I agree completely that the first hour (the battle) was incredible and I got a little shiver when they played the old theme song (as someone who watched the original when it was on TV). All the scenes with Boomer were excellent. The scene when the five linked up and Chief found out the truth about Callie was pure gold. But then on earth, it was strange. I think I liked it for the most part but them leaving all their technology to start anew was hard to swallow. But I haven't seen many episodes so I don't know as much about the over arching themes. I might have to mull it over some more.

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